On last Saturday I had a funny meditation session. I usually pray to receive the gift of singing so I can sing Gods praises.
After the chanting, in the quiet moment I saw an African black man. Then I saw 3 or 4 different african faces. I was puzzled as I have never met an African in meditation. Then I realised that Africans are known for their marvelous singing. So I asked this African man who had something white on, what was his name. He said Michael. I felt like laughing and asked you mean Michael Jackson? He didn't bother to respond to that but said that he would help me sing and dance. I felt amused but didn't want to offend him just in case it was a serious offer. I asked him to come everyday without waiting for me to call him as I want to sing God's praises in the most beautiful way. I am still laughing at that. Was it really Michael Jackson?
Whatever it was, my throat chakra had the intense burning sensation prior to the vision and also I feel that my heart chakra is overactive. There is intense heat in my throat and deep inside my ears as well. Throat is lumpy and ears uncomfortable. This got be part of the Throat chakra awakening. I am hoping for the energy to balance out soon. I did feel this intense heat in the throat in early 2009. Hoping all my higher chakras are once again awakening.
Last night I wrote a few very emotional poems in Panjabi. Throat is also the chakra of communication, so its got to be the result of the combined force of Throat and Heart Chakras.
A Panjabi Poem Ik Vaar Mere Lai Avenga? I wrote last night pleading Guru Nanak to visit my troubled life, for I can't keep Work Life Balance and can't find enough time to meditate or to spend time with my children to teach them important lessons.
Showing posts with label Heart chakra. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Heart chakra. Show all posts
Tuesday, December 14, 2010
Hilarious Meditation Experience
Tuesday, September 21, 2010
New revelation about elements and pranic and kundalini energy
I am so thrilled to realize after my short meditation today that Kundalini Energy is Fire / heat while Pranic Energy is Water / cold. The body is Earth that holds all other elements, just like the planet earth. The Soul is Ether and the third eye is the Air? I am not sure about the last two yet.
Now I understand why when anyone starts breath meditation without any theoretical knowledge feels the heat coming out of the feet and possibly hands as well. I didn't know what to do with that heat. Kundalini energy awakens from the feet chakra to the base of the spine but without the knowledge on how to visualize and move the energy up willingly creates a problem until the person works something out.
The point that was made clear to me was that if the body is Earth and Kundalini is hot, your desires are the seeds but they can't grow and realise their potential without the water, the pranic energy from above. I have always believed that awakening the pranic energy is much safer and rewarding. Awakening kundalini without pranic energy is playing with fire and is dangerous.
To activate pranic energy you need to focus on a space one hand above your head and draw it inside you with incoming breath and either let it go back out or expand a specific chakra with the exhalation, whatever works for you. You will feel the sensation on the top of your head on the seventh chakra. If you are lucky, you might feel the raindrops, water flowing down or flooding inside your body. Depending upon the extent of the energy, you might feel heavy vibration as if your whole body is shaking. Believe me, do not be scared, just enjoy as you will be and do not worry about other people seeing you shaking as your physical body is actually not shaking at all. Its your etheric body separating itself from the physical body, which is a great thing.
Once you can access pranic energy, the meditation should involve drawing pranic energy from above and kundalini from below and meeting in the heart chakra. If you can practice this, you are doing great but its still an exercise. The essence of meditation is to cultivate love and gratitude towards God / creator /Universe. Heart centre is the seat of the Golden city of God / Soul. Without love, the gates do not open and all the previous efforts are wasted. If love/gratitude is felt, the pranic energy flow will increase and the seeds will germinate. All your unmentioned desires will start being fulfilled in the next few months, if the magic happended and you experienced something. But do have focus on any desire other that the one to know and meet God. Pretending doesn't help really, you must be a true seeker and believe me this changes from day to day. Some days you are seeking truthfully and other days you are just performing the ritual and doing an exercise you don't get out of practice and lazy. That's Ok too, keep trying and you might succeed one day.
Naam Japat Man Harya Hoi
Remembering God / Meditating, you heart blossoms like the fields become lust green after rain.
For information on the 3rd eye and its importance Click here
Now I understand why when anyone starts breath meditation without any theoretical knowledge feels the heat coming out of the feet and possibly hands as well. I didn't know what to do with that heat. Kundalini energy awakens from the feet chakra to the base of the spine but without the knowledge on how to visualize and move the energy up willingly creates a problem until the person works something out.
The point that was made clear to me was that if the body is Earth and Kundalini is hot, your desires are the seeds but they can't grow and realise their potential without the water, the pranic energy from above. I have always believed that awakening the pranic energy is much safer and rewarding. Awakening kundalini without pranic energy is playing with fire and is dangerous.
To activate pranic energy you need to focus on a space one hand above your head and draw it inside you with incoming breath and either let it go back out or expand a specific chakra with the exhalation, whatever works for you. You will feel the sensation on the top of your head on the seventh chakra. If you are lucky, you might feel the raindrops, water flowing down or flooding inside your body. Depending upon the extent of the energy, you might feel heavy vibration as if your whole body is shaking. Believe me, do not be scared, just enjoy as you will be and do not worry about other people seeing you shaking as your physical body is actually not shaking at all. Its your etheric body separating itself from the physical body, which is a great thing.
Once you can access pranic energy, the meditation should involve drawing pranic energy from above and kundalini from below and meeting in the heart chakra. If you can practice this, you are doing great but its still an exercise. The essence of meditation is to cultivate love and gratitude towards God / creator /Universe. Heart centre is the seat of the Golden city of God / Soul. Without love, the gates do not open and all the previous efforts are wasted. If love/gratitude is felt, the pranic energy flow will increase and the seeds will germinate. All your unmentioned desires will start being fulfilled in the next few months, if the magic happended and you experienced something. But do have focus on any desire other that the one to know and meet God. Pretending doesn't help really, you must be a true seeker and believe me this changes from day to day. Some days you are seeking truthfully and other days you are just performing the ritual and doing an exercise you don't get out of practice and lazy. That's Ok too, keep trying and you might succeed one day.
Naam Japat Man Harya Hoi
Remembering God / Meditating, you heart blossoms like the fields become lust green after rain.
For information on the 3rd eye and its importance Click here
Wednesday, July 14, 2010
Emotion is the switch to God and DNA healing
Sick people generally wonder why they are one to get a chronic illness. I have always believed that we choose our own diseases by virtue of the emotions we hold in our body. Happy and loving emotions bring good health and long life and negative mentions bring illness.
Gregg Braden has explained how this happens in his audio book 'Beyond point zero'. He says that emotions we hold in our body create pressure in the body that determines which DNA cells are activated. Since positive emotions have higher vibrational frequency, positive emotions unlock more complex DNA. To turn on all DNA codes we need to have pressure on maximum number of pressure points. Compassion, he believes, touches most vibrational push points.
Greg further explains the difference between Emotion, Feeling and Thought. He says that Thought is the guidance system, Emotion is the the power system that moves the patterns of energy within the body and together Thought and Emotion create Feeling. He says that there is unique chemistry to carry each emotion. So what emotions you carry? How it might be affecting your body and mind?
Following website claims, "The one mystical key to unlocking your full potential is your vibrational energy. Every thought, every emotion, every belief transmits a measurable vibrational frequency. Clarity vibrates at the highest frequency."
http://www.chakramagic.com/solar_plexus.htm
Greg says that heart is the transformer made of seven layers of liquid crystal that perceives and sends the signal to brain. This is a great explanation. Most people believe that its the brain that sends the message to the heart and then the heart feels. Greg is right in saying that its the heart that perceives before the brain takes charge of the situation. You might have seen in drastic situations that you feel the emotion first and then ask yourself to pull your head together to handle the situation. Greg says, "Logic must be tempered with wisdom from the heart."
Gregg fosters compassion and suggests 3 codes of blessing, the positive, the negative and the witness (yourself). He asks us to bless three types of people - one's that are suffering, for they created the feeling of compassion in you. Secondly, those who perpetrated the crimes of making others suffer, for they were a part of that act which created compassion in you. Even though you don't condone what they did as right, you must acknowledge that they played a part in that event that created the feeling of compassion. Greg says, "Don't respond in polarity. Bless that which hurt you deeply. Acknowledge them even though you don't understand at this point why this happened. This is a blessing as it helps us change how we feel about it, to allow us to move forward and become available to love." Thirdly, you must thank yourself, the witness, for witnessing this event. He says, "witness without judgement, feeling without distortion and emotion without charge ..."
See the full details of Gregg Braden's audiobook 'Beyond point zero' on http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/32003925
Guru Nanak says 'Gobind Bhao Bhagat Ka Bhukha' God is hungry for Loving devotion. All his life Guru Nanak spread the message to not worry about the nitty gritty of Yoga practices etc, rather focus on loving God and his creation by meditating on his name, singing his praises and on sharing your honest earnings with the needy and by doing good work for the community as God resides within his creation as well as outside it.
Guru Nanak also asks us to not judge others as 'Na ko Moorakh, Na ko Syana' - nobody is clever and nobody is a fool. 'Jit Ko Laya Tit Hi Laga' each person is only engaged in whatever he/ she has been made to engage in.
Guru Nanak is considered the prophet of the heart for he believes that the heart is the central point that helps you meet God.
As they say, "Ask and it must be revealed". In one meditation session, I was desperate (Emotion) to meet God and see what Guru Nanak saw that made him utter the word 'WAHEGURU' - Indescribable teacher / master. In this session, Guru Nanak revealed himself and then showed me God himself in my third eye. Straight from the God's eye two rays reflected to my heart centre where a lotus blossomed. The feeling of emmence love that I felt during this experience lasted months. During this time, I couldn't see anyone as a bad person. I loved everyone trully from the heart, no matter if it was a stranger, a person I previously hated or the loved ones. I trully loved them all without judgement. That was all not by virtue of my goodness, but a result of a powerful meditation experience that generated this feeling. I use to the first person to judge others and was quite proud of this skill. I no longer judge people as good or bad. I accept that they are here to fulfil a purpose and if they have hurt me, then I have a lesson to learn. They have their own lessons to learn that I don't need to worry about. For a person like me who had extreme difficulty forgiving people, its so easy now because of the understanding of how it works and the positive consequesces of forgiving others for my own health and spiritual growth. I do get upset with people but soon as I realise what I am doing to myself, I consciously forgive people for their actions saying "only if they knew a better way to deal with the situation, they would." I also bless them and myself that may God give us understanding.
Gregg Braden has explained how this happens in his audio book 'Beyond point zero'. He says that emotions we hold in our body create pressure in the body that determines which DNA cells are activated. Since positive emotions have higher vibrational frequency, positive emotions unlock more complex DNA. To turn on all DNA codes we need to have pressure on maximum number of pressure points. Compassion, he believes, touches most vibrational push points.
Greg further explains the difference between Emotion, Feeling and Thought. He says that Thought is the guidance system, Emotion is the the power system that moves the patterns of energy within the body and together Thought and Emotion create Feeling. He says that there is unique chemistry to carry each emotion. So what emotions you carry? How it might be affecting your body and mind?
Following website claims, "The one mystical key to unlocking your full potential is your vibrational energy. Every thought, every emotion, every belief transmits a measurable vibrational frequency. Clarity vibrates at the highest frequency."
http://www.chakramagic.com/solar_plexus.htm
Greg says that heart is the transformer made of seven layers of liquid crystal that perceives and sends the signal to brain. This is a great explanation. Most people believe that its the brain that sends the message to the heart and then the heart feels. Greg is right in saying that its the heart that perceives before the brain takes charge of the situation. You might have seen in drastic situations that you feel the emotion first and then ask yourself to pull your head together to handle the situation. Greg says, "Logic must be tempered with wisdom from the heart."
Gregg fosters compassion and suggests 3 codes of blessing, the positive, the negative and the witness (yourself). He asks us to bless three types of people - one's that are suffering, for they created the feeling of compassion in you. Secondly, those who perpetrated the crimes of making others suffer, for they were a part of that act which created compassion in you. Even though you don't condone what they did as right, you must acknowledge that they played a part in that event that created the feeling of compassion. Greg says, "Don't respond in polarity. Bless that which hurt you deeply. Acknowledge them even though you don't understand at this point why this happened. This is a blessing as it helps us change how we feel about it, to allow us to move forward and become available to love." Thirdly, you must thank yourself, the witness, for witnessing this event. He says, "witness without judgement, feeling without distortion and emotion without charge ..."
See the full details of Gregg Braden's audiobook 'Beyond point zero' on http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/32003925
Guru Nanak says 'Gobind Bhao Bhagat Ka Bhukha' God is hungry for Loving devotion. All his life Guru Nanak spread the message to not worry about the nitty gritty of Yoga practices etc, rather focus on loving God and his creation by meditating on his name, singing his praises and on sharing your honest earnings with the needy and by doing good work for the community as God resides within his creation as well as outside it.
Guru Nanak also asks us to not judge others as 'Na ko Moorakh, Na ko Syana' - nobody is clever and nobody is a fool. 'Jit Ko Laya Tit Hi Laga' each person is only engaged in whatever he/ she has been made to engage in.
Guru Nanak is considered the prophet of the heart for he believes that the heart is the central point that helps you meet God.
As they say, "Ask and it must be revealed". In one meditation session, I was desperate (Emotion) to meet God and see what Guru Nanak saw that made him utter the word 'WAHEGURU' - Indescribable teacher / master. In this session, Guru Nanak revealed himself and then showed me God himself in my third eye. Straight from the God's eye two rays reflected to my heart centre where a lotus blossomed. The feeling of emmence love that I felt during this experience lasted months. During this time, I couldn't see anyone as a bad person. I loved everyone trully from the heart, no matter if it was a stranger, a person I previously hated or the loved ones. I trully loved them all without judgement. That was all not by virtue of my goodness, but a result of a powerful meditation experience that generated this feeling. I use to the first person to judge others and was quite proud of this skill. I no longer judge people as good or bad. I accept that they are here to fulfil a purpose and if they have hurt me, then I have a lesson to learn. They have their own lessons to learn that I don't need to worry about. For a person like me who had extreme difficulty forgiving people, its so easy now because of the understanding of how it works and the positive consequesces of forgiving others for my own health and spiritual growth. I do get upset with people but soon as I realise what I am doing to myself, I consciously forgive people for their actions saying "only if they knew a better way to deal with the situation, they would." I also bless them and myself that may God give us understanding.
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Friday, June 25, 2010
Rituals and Contemporary Sikhism - Joot - Yug -Havan
I had another opportunity to See Giani Thakur Singh ji yesterday, in a private setting. I was so excited as I wanted to know more about deeper spiritual stuff that regular people don't know. I took Surinder Singh Nanaksar Delhi wale and his jatha in my car to visit them.
Surinder Singh ji asked the vidhi of doing 125 lakh Moolmantras. Giani ji said that one should wear all white after a shower, have a white sheet underneath and a white Mala (Rosemary). Then do 32 Mala's each day. It roughly takes eight hours a day to complete it in 40 days. One could do two four hour sessions but he suggested that we do it at a set time. Samuel Sagan also mentions in his book 'Opening the third eye' the importance of meditating at the same time, regularly.
In my casual self, I asked wouldn't it be Ok if I just counted the hours and not worry about counting the 32 Mals's each day. I fear that I will miscount as I use to as a child when my dad use to ask us to do 5-10 mala's of simran. Other ladies had come in the room by then and entered the discussion and commented that it wouldn't work as everyone's speed is different. Giani ji wasn't too pleased about my question and asked if I had ever done mala to which I replied, "No", as his tone was already suggesting that I have no idea what I am talking about. I was merely asking because of my laziness about counting and memory.
Then some lady asked Giani Thakur SIngh ji if we should light Joot in the Gurdwara. They complained that the present giani stopped them from lighting it. I had heard this issue deing discussed at the Thath one morning.
Thakur Singh ji was in favour of the joot being lit at the gurdwara and home. He started showing the photos that he took at different historical Gurdwara and claimed that all those gurdwaras have Joot in them. I was impressed with this argument. I stayed quiet and listened as I don't know anything about this topic. He furthur said that we (regular public) don't understand the deeper reason. He said that when we make Prashad and add water, the vapours carry the smell of the Ghee made with Cows milk. He claimed that the smell of the Ghee is the only food of Gods.
Then I figured that he wasn't only instigating that we should light it in the Gurdwara but also in individual homes. This prompted me to speak. I asked Giani ji, "Wouldn't it be better if people collectively donated the amount of money they will use on burning the ghee (bucket of ghee is A$85 in our town) to poor people in India?"
I was besides myself at Giani ji's reaction. I was expecting a very simple explanation, either in favour or against it. I thought I was happy to listen to his opinion regardless. Well, I wasn't thinking too hard but Giani ji's reaction told me that he felt that I was challenging his authority, which surprised me. Instead of speaking in favour or against the issue that I had raised, he said that I should look at my level before speaking - "Apne Diare Wich Reh Ke Gal Karidi Hai". I didn't think having an open discussion was not part of my diara (level of understanding). What I failed to understand was that afterall he was a man of authority from India and was expecting a submissive 'Yes Sir' attitude.
Giani ji further said that he has got plenty of answers for well educated smart arses like me (offcourse in punjabi). he then told the group how much he is doing for poor people but we shouldn't being the poor people issue into the spiritual realm. I apologised and tried to explain that he has misunderstood my intention. I didn't intend to put him down but was only looking for a viewpoint in the light of the poor people's needs.
During the talk he then nullified my wonderful experience I had shared with him a day earlier. Without making direct reference to me, he said that anything can take a fake form and appear as God and we wouldn't know the difference. He also pointed to the Raagi jatha and said that people like you and I who are in this field would be the one's who would know about spiritual issues, what would these grahasthes (people with family daily involved in work and social life, not involved in spiritual life) know.
As we stood up to leave, I went upto him and bent as if to touch his feet wrapped inside the blanket and a tear came out of my eye as I apologised for upseting him but then said that I am sad that you misunderstood me. I was not challenging your authority. Then I explained to him how I have been thinking about doing something for the poor and was merely looking for ways we can help them. He asked me if I donate Daswand (10th share of income for charity). I told him that I don't do it. I raised the issue of Darbar Sahib Amritsar, how the SGPC spends so much money on new rumala everyday and does nothing for the poor and to teach gurbani and kirtan to kids. Giani ji agreed.
Other ladies ask for the permission to leave and said that they will visit him the next day just before his departure back to Brisbane. Upon asking why, the ladies said that they will bring donation. Giani ji asked me to come again as well and bring donation, to which I replied that I won't be giving any donation with my filthy money.
I want accountability and need to know exactly what money was spent where.
At present Giani Thakur Singh ji is being used to collect money for the Minto gurdwara. What Giani ji don't know that its is owned by Malaysian Sikhs who promote that Sikhs should only read three bani's in the morning instead of five - Japji, jaap and Tvaprasad Sawaiye. I have attended Sikh Youth Camps run by these people for many years. Singer Dya Singh has also been involved in these camps for a few years. I wonder if Giani Thakur Singh would have raised money for them had he known about their stand on Nitnem.
In the above incident, I realise the cause of friction was cultural differences. I have been working with Australians for long and share the following opinions with them, "the Australians feel the need to have and voice individual opinions, the importance of being heard, and the opportunity to make a decision and move on. In a cultural workshop they felt that the silence was uncomfortable as silences in Western cultures can mean a number of things with a rather negative impact e.g. that a person does not understand, does not have an opinion, does not know how to deal with the situation or is upset by what is going on. To better understand what is going on they use verbal communication such as asking questions, explanations, confrontations to break through silences. The Japanese added that sometimes talking too much was regarded as a less intelligent way to deal with problems."
Source: Cross-cultural Effectiveness, June 2010 Joost Thissen
http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/246404/e5f5ee5aa4/1343002324/bfa371b8c6/
Giani Thakur Singh definately took the Japanese view when I thought I was starting an open discussion on the topic, whereas I think that "Just do it" approach is childish as there is no reflection on the possible outcomes.
What hurt me the most is his remark that I haven't seen the light within (joot in the Solar Plexus), at least light it physically. In his words, "Andar tan joot jagai nahin, bahar tan jaga lavo." I am hurt that a day earlier he questioned me about my experiences with a big checklist -
Have you seen any colours, if yes what colours
Have you met any scary spirits yet etc and I had answered yes to all his questions, without adding any more information on what else I have seen and known, that he didn't ask. The two things that I haven't seen that he asked for were the White Colour and the Joot. I am not sure what he meant by White Colour. I am sure it is different from the Great White Light that entered my body before any other spiritual experience.
The very next day he used the Joot point to degrade me. Since that moment I have been praying to Guru Nanak to help me. I have so wanted to have "Puran Joot Jagai Ghat Mai". If anything, this has prompted me to get my act together and meditate as much as I use to, for at least hour and half everyday sitting meditation and then a few hours while laying in bed.

More info on Solar Plexus on the link but don't expect any chakras to get balanced by using chystals. The only way to balance a chakra is by meditating in that area of the body. http://www.colormychakras.com/light-blog/solar-plexus-chakra
Another source says' "The solar plexus chakra influences or "rules" the digestive organs, the muscular systems in general, the liver and gallbladder. It also has a general governing effect on the limbs, particularly the elbow and knee joints. On a consciousness level, it expresses personal will, ego, sense of self and effectiveness at relating to or influencing other people and animals. A good CEO, military officer or dog trainer, for example, must have a strong and well-developed solar plexus center. When this center is blocked by various internalized fears, self-doubt and limiting beliefs, people have difficulty getting what they want in life or feeling deep emotions, and easily are subject to anxiety, panic attacks, obsessive-compulsive disorders, worry and paranoia." http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=31543
Nice photo on the following source: http://www.chakramagic.com/solar_plexus.htm
The heart center is the seat for the divine.
A space where you are the host and the divine is the guest.
Once this center opens up, the energy reaches here...
You have come half way to hug the divine.
Three chakras below heart...and three above.
The chakras below the heart govern the earthly aspect and
the chakras above the heart reflect the divine aspect of our being.
Heart chakra is exactly in the center,
the bridge that connects above and below.
Here something beautiful is born within...
something is transformed permanently...if you allow it to happen.
Your spiritual journey is accelerated with high velocity from here.
There is no turning back from here
once the petals of heart chakra open up. (At least I have this experience with me.)
Blessed are these souls who function from heart chakra and above.
Surinder Singh ji asked the vidhi of doing 125 lakh Moolmantras. Giani ji said that one should wear all white after a shower, have a white sheet underneath and a white Mala (Rosemary). Then do 32 Mala's each day. It roughly takes eight hours a day to complete it in 40 days. One could do two four hour sessions but he suggested that we do it at a set time. Samuel Sagan also mentions in his book 'Opening the third eye' the importance of meditating at the same time, regularly.
In my casual self, I asked wouldn't it be Ok if I just counted the hours and not worry about counting the 32 Mals's each day. I fear that I will miscount as I use to as a child when my dad use to ask us to do 5-10 mala's of simran. Other ladies had come in the room by then and entered the discussion and commented that it wouldn't work as everyone's speed is different. Giani ji wasn't too pleased about my question and asked if I had ever done mala to which I replied, "No", as his tone was already suggesting that I have no idea what I am talking about. I was merely asking because of my laziness about counting and memory.
Then some lady asked Giani Thakur SIngh ji if we should light Joot in the Gurdwara. They complained that the present giani stopped them from lighting it. I had heard this issue deing discussed at the Thath one morning.
Thakur Singh ji was in favour of the joot being lit at the gurdwara and home. He started showing the photos that he took at different historical Gurdwara and claimed that all those gurdwaras have Joot in them. I was impressed with this argument. I stayed quiet and listened as I don't know anything about this topic. He furthur said that we (regular public) don't understand the deeper reason. He said that when we make Prashad and add water, the vapours carry the smell of the Ghee made with Cows milk. He claimed that the smell of the Ghee is the only food of Gods.
Then I figured that he wasn't only instigating that we should light it in the Gurdwara but also in individual homes. This prompted me to speak. I asked Giani ji, "Wouldn't it be better if people collectively donated the amount of money they will use on burning the ghee (bucket of ghee is A$85 in our town) to poor people in India?"
I was besides myself at Giani ji's reaction. I was expecting a very simple explanation, either in favour or against it. I thought I was happy to listen to his opinion regardless. Well, I wasn't thinking too hard but Giani ji's reaction told me that he felt that I was challenging his authority, which surprised me. Instead of speaking in favour or against the issue that I had raised, he said that I should look at my level before speaking - "Apne Diare Wich Reh Ke Gal Karidi Hai". I didn't think having an open discussion was not part of my diara (level of understanding). What I failed to understand was that afterall he was a man of authority from India and was expecting a submissive 'Yes Sir' attitude.
Giani ji further said that he has got plenty of answers for well educated smart arses like me (offcourse in punjabi). he then told the group how much he is doing for poor people but we shouldn't being the poor people issue into the spiritual realm. I apologised and tried to explain that he has misunderstood my intention. I didn't intend to put him down but was only looking for a viewpoint in the light of the poor people's needs.
During the talk he then nullified my wonderful experience I had shared with him a day earlier. Without making direct reference to me, he said that anything can take a fake form and appear as God and we wouldn't know the difference. He also pointed to the Raagi jatha and said that people like you and I who are in this field would be the one's who would know about spiritual issues, what would these grahasthes (people with family daily involved in work and social life, not involved in spiritual life) know.
As we stood up to leave, I went upto him and bent as if to touch his feet wrapped inside the blanket and a tear came out of my eye as I apologised for upseting him but then said that I am sad that you misunderstood me. I was not challenging your authority. Then I explained to him how I have been thinking about doing something for the poor and was merely looking for ways we can help them. He asked me if I donate Daswand (10th share of income for charity). I told him that I don't do it. I raised the issue of Darbar Sahib Amritsar, how the SGPC spends so much money on new rumala everyday and does nothing for the poor and to teach gurbani and kirtan to kids. Giani ji agreed.
Other ladies ask for the permission to leave and said that they will visit him the next day just before his departure back to Brisbane. Upon asking why, the ladies said that they will bring donation. Giani ji asked me to come again as well and bring donation, to which I replied that I won't be giving any donation with my filthy money.
I want accountability and need to know exactly what money was spent where.
At present Giani Thakur Singh ji is being used to collect money for the Minto gurdwara. What Giani ji don't know that its is owned by Malaysian Sikhs who promote that Sikhs should only read three bani's in the morning instead of five - Japji, jaap and Tvaprasad Sawaiye. I have attended Sikh Youth Camps run by these people for many years. Singer Dya Singh has also been involved in these camps for a few years. I wonder if Giani Thakur Singh would have raised money for them had he known about their stand on Nitnem.
In the above incident, I realise the cause of friction was cultural differences. I have been working with Australians for long and share the following opinions with them, "the Australians feel the need to have and voice individual opinions, the importance of being heard, and the opportunity to make a decision and move on. In a cultural workshop they felt that the silence was uncomfortable as silences in Western cultures can mean a number of things with a rather negative impact e.g. that a person does not understand, does not have an opinion, does not know how to deal with the situation or is upset by what is going on. To better understand what is going on they use verbal communication such as asking questions, explanations, confrontations to break through silences. The Japanese added that sometimes talking too much was regarded as a less intelligent way to deal with problems."
Source: Cross-cultural Effectiveness, June 2010 Joost Thissen
http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/246404/e5f5ee5aa4/1343002324/bfa371b8c6/
Giani Thakur Singh definately took the Japanese view when I thought I was starting an open discussion on the topic, whereas I think that "Just do it" approach is childish as there is no reflection on the possible outcomes.
What hurt me the most is his remark that I haven't seen the light within (joot in the Solar Plexus), at least light it physically. In his words, "Andar tan joot jagai nahin, bahar tan jaga lavo." I am hurt that a day earlier he questioned me about my experiences with a big checklist -
Have you seen any colours, if yes what colours
Have you met any scary spirits yet etc and I had answered yes to all his questions, without adding any more information on what else I have seen and known, that he didn't ask. The two things that I haven't seen that he asked for were the White Colour and the Joot. I am not sure what he meant by White Colour. I am sure it is different from the Great White Light that entered my body before any other spiritual experience.
The very next day he used the Joot point to degrade me. Since that moment I have been praying to Guru Nanak to help me. I have so wanted to have "Puran Joot Jagai Ghat Mai". If anything, this has prompted me to get my act together and meditate as much as I use to, for at least hour and half everyday sitting meditation and then a few hours while laying in bed.

More info on Solar Plexus on the link but don't expect any chakras to get balanced by using chystals. The only way to balance a chakra is by meditating in that area of the body. http://www.colormychakras.com/light-blog/solar-plexus-chakra
Another source says' "The solar plexus chakra influences or "rules" the digestive organs, the muscular systems in general, the liver and gallbladder. It also has a general governing effect on the limbs, particularly the elbow and knee joints. On a consciousness level, it expresses personal will, ego, sense of self and effectiveness at relating to or influencing other people and animals. A good CEO, military officer or dog trainer, for example, must have a strong and well-developed solar plexus center. When this center is blocked by various internalized fears, self-doubt and limiting beliefs, people have difficulty getting what they want in life or feeling deep emotions, and easily are subject to anxiety, panic attacks, obsessive-compulsive disorders, worry and paranoia." http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=31543
Nice photo on the following source: http://www.chakramagic.com/solar_plexus.htm
The heart center is the seat for the divine.
A space where you are the host and the divine is the guest.
Once this center opens up, the energy reaches here...
You have come half way to hug the divine.
Three chakras below heart...and three above.
The chakras below the heart govern the earthly aspect and
the chakras above the heart reflect the divine aspect of our being.
Heart chakra is exactly in the center,
the bridge that connects above and below.
Here something beautiful is born within...
something is transformed permanently...if you allow it to happen.
Your spiritual journey is accelerated with high velocity from here.
There is no turning back from here
once the petals of heart chakra open up. (At least I have this experience with me.)
Blessed are these souls who function from heart chakra and above.
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